Posts by The Fall Guy

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I'm so confused, help?

by Ponyo in

i want to share my story.

(might be a tad long).

i have no idea where i stand anymore regarding being a jw and where i stand in my marriage.. im 28 years old and the years are certainly ticking by.

Ponyo, firstly, you could be going through what many people do in later years - dreaming of a past relationship and wondering "What if?" No couple will sustain the same initial excitement & passion for many years, and some will have affairs to compensate for the "lack" in their life. You appear too have a good husband, family & life. Treasure what you have and be thankful for your memories - but don't let memories and fantasies destroy what you know & love.

Secondly, you said, "I don't know what to believe. It's always been the truth for me, I've never believed otherwise. And if the organization has faults, well I think it's because it's made of imperfect men?"Wrong! The WTBTS hierarchy - from the G.B. down to the elders - will not be so loving and considerate if you exhibit faults because you're imperfect. The organization will punish you severely. Do some research on this site regarding numerous teachings we were given, and then decide if the org teaches "the truth." If you don't dig, you'll never find. Wrong! The WTBTS hierarchy - from the G.B. down to the elders - will not be so loving and considerate if you exhibit faults because you're imperfect. The organization will punish you severely. Do some research on this site regarding numerous teachings we were given as J.W.'s, and then decide if the org teaches "the truth." If you don't dig, you'll never find. If you'd like some genuine examples - to save you hunting - P.M. me.

I hope you can resolve your anxieties, and enjoy life even more.

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PERSECUTION (and I tell you why I named this topic title)

by HiddlesWife in

i've noticed that even though i'm inactive, i'm getting treated very badly by a number people inside the borg and outside of it.

(1) from inside: various brothers and sisters from the cong i'm associated with/occasionally attend are being influenced--especially by pioneers, a couple of mss and their family members--to shun me, my siblings and my cousins.

three (3) of my close friends in the cong (two who are developing doubts) are really beginning to feel "the heat" from these "popular/privilege of service" ones.

The Fall Guy

Always remember that all the people you've described have mental faculties that are seriously warped, and as such, you'd benefit your own mental well-being by strictly limiting any contact with them to "necessary business" only. Discuss nothing personal with such ones, and make new friends elsewhere.

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Waking up to TTATT: Blessing or Curse?

by Jules Saturn in

if you take the red pill, you'll have knowledge, you'll be awakened, aware of reality, you'll have freedom.. if you take the blue pill, you stay in your bubble, wearing rose colored glasses, and feel security in an illusion.. taking the red pill isn't something that's easy to do.

to accept that everything around you is an illusion built up on lies or half truths.

but hey, it might feel good to be aware and break free from this illusion.

The Fall Guy

Many/most J.W's have invested every aspect of their lives in the cult, and will automatically respond, "Where else can we go," because although "built up on lies or half truths" certainly describes the org's teachings, it equally applies to Catholicism and Protestantism. However, from a strictly Biblical point of view, (not atheistic or evolutionist) not everything J.W.'s say is a falsehood. The highlighting of the opposition's scriptural errors (such as immortal soul, going to heaven/hell immediately at death) are what convinced many to turn apostate and leave "Christendom."

J.W.'s don't/can't see any other Bible-based religion as a good alternative, so they make excuses and stick with what they know.

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JW Stumper Questions - List You Best Here

by pale.emperor in

hi guys.

sooner or later we're going to get a jw knocking on our door.

just like when we were jw's doing the knocking, it's good to have a question prepared to get them thinking about their own beliefs.

The Fall Guy

Considering that the WTBTS taught numerous doctrinal errors via Russell & Rutherford and was no better or worse than their "competitors," what independent evidence proves that God selected them as the "faithful slave? in 1919"

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Was this an old J.W.'s joke?

by The Fall Guy in

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friends

a zealous j.w.

related this to me a few days ago;.

on a recent visit to austria, they noticed (and photographed) this very out-of-place picture hanging on a wall in a k.h... .

The Fall Guy

A zealous J.W. related this to me a few days ago;

On a recent visit to Austria, they noticed (and photographed) this very out-of-place picture hanging on a wall in a K.H..

When they asked about it, they were told that an old brother had died and left it to the congregation - asserting that it was very valuable and requesting that it be hung in the Kingdom Hall. Just wonder what C.O.'s thought of it.

The J.W. then told me that the sooner the LDC visits the KH and sees it - and then removes it - the better.

According to the internet, the original painting is hanging in an Austrian museum. http://www.art.co.uk/products/p28050785023-sa-i12092971/pompeo-return-of-the-prodigal-son-1773.htm

Which begs the question, did the deceased J.W. have a laugh at the expense of the org? :)

Maybe someone can provide a "new light" on the subject.

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A new step in my exit from the WT

by Skepsis in

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friends

if you remember, i've been posting here my subsequent steps from a regular pioneer and ms at the beginning of this year to a rank-and-file publisher after stepping down as ms two months ago.. during these months, i've been through a difficult way.

but after every step, i could feel freer and better.

i've met a person outside the wt that has changed my life forever and i have experienced a freedom of thought and an inner peace like never before.. however, i knew that staying in my hometown would make my fading very difficult.

The Fall Guy

I did exactly what you've discussed - moved to a different congregation a very long distance from the previous one, was announced as new publisher, then only attended once every several weeks. (for cover for distant family) Went cold turkey with answering, assemblies, and field service. Worked out perfectly for me. Everyone is different.

I wish you well.

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So today this happened...

by Phoebe in

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friends

you all pretty much know my story so i won't repeat it but.... to say i'm being hounded by my local congregation is an understatement.

today the cobe finally found us in.

well, i refused to answer the door but my husband did.

The Fall Guy

The key thing is not to talk to these predators.

Phoebe, you have a PM.

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If You Question The Governing Body, You're Like Korah

by pale.emperor in

anyone who questions the governing bodys authority is labelled as an apostate and almost always they bring up the story of korah and his revolt against moses.. watchtower august 1st, 2002, the article loyally submit to godly authority paragraphs 8-15.. https://wol.jw.org/en/wol/d/r1/lp-e/2002563.

in not so subtle hint, the gb likens themselves to moses, and those who disagree with the gb are korah.. paragraph 15 is actually quite damaging to the gb's argument though:.

it was so unnecessary for all those people to lose their lives.

The Fall Guy

JW's will face a Judicial Committee and guaranteed disfellowshipping if they obey 1 John 4:1 to "test the inspired expressions", and openly discuss their research with other J.W.s.

The cult has indoctrinated the sheep to hear the org's "voice" - and to hear alarm bells if they hear otherwise.

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Be loyal when a relative is disfellowshipped

by UnshackleTheChains in

well.....they showed that shunning video again.

you know...the one where goldilocks gets disfellowshipped- and the parents look across the hall at her with disdain.....yeah that video.. i was interested to see what kind of answers would be given during the discussion after the video and some of the reactions.

everyone sat there gormlessly staring at the video.

The Fall Guy

J.W.'s with disfellowshipped family members should never forget the "loving provision" the org has, (not the Bible) namely, that "glorious ones" in their congregation (elders) can safely discuss spiritual topics/reactivation with d/f'd ones, but the relatives cannot and must not. Sounds logical to me. :(

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Oh The Irony

by FedUpJW in

so i sat and suffered through the clam tonight.. everything was pretty much as dull, repetitious, and simple-minded as i have come to expect, but i was really struck by the mind-numbing idiotic comments made during the part about shunning family.. then came the book study (no real bible use) loaded with self-congratulatory b.s about how wt never has, and never will beg, solicit, or ask for money.

i could feel myself beginning to channel the old tasmanian devil cartoon character as i listened to that garbage while remembering the jdubya tv shows about how more money was going out than coming in and give more.

but finally came the most ironic (to me) part of the entire meeting and i could not help bursting out in a loud belly laugh that got me many dirty looks and heavy frowns.

The Fall Guy

I'll be watching the people's faces as I visit (unavoidably!) a foreign speaking congregation.

Key quotations: https://www.jehovahs-witness.com/topic/5184209385684992/next-weeks-bible-study-k-h